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    More patent insanity:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...in-apple-suit/

    In other words, HTC might be able to get an injunction preventing the sale of iPhone 5 in the US.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    Funny stuff. All it proves though is that there are many fools in this world - and they certainly aren't limited to Apple users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    More patent insanity:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...in-apple-suit/

    In other words, HTC might be able to get an injunction preventing the sale of iPhone 5 in the US.
    If those patents are related to 4G, they are most likely standard essential patents, and must be licensed under fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory (FRAND) terms. This essentially means they can't charge Apple more than they charge anyone else for it. This is probably the reason Apple is unwilling to pay licensing - they're probably asking for something outrageous. If these are indeed FRAND patents (and I admit I am not sure) then all that will come of this is that Apple will pay a nominal fee that is in line with the rest of the licensees. Samsung is trying to do the same thing claiming they will immediately sue over LTE in iPhone 5 - I say good luck. Apple is more than willing to pay FRAND terms like anyone else. 4G is not owned by any single entity - there are tons of patents that go into making the standard, and most of them must be licensed under FRAND terms. Apple owns a bunch of 4G patents as well, but they would never pursue legal action over FRAND patents. Any company that does this is scared and playing PR games.

    A real patent defense:

    “Apple Inc. Thursday won an injunction against Google Inc.’s Motorola unit over infringement of Apple’s ‘rubber band’ patent, in a ruling which bans the sale of Motorola products in Germany that infringe the patent,” Ursula Quass reports for MarketWatch.

    “The court, in the southern German city of Munich, didn’t specify how much Motorola will have to pay Apple in damages, or which products will be affected by the judgment.,” Quass reports.

    Simon Sage reports for Android Central, “The win will likely mean a sales injunction as soon as Apple posts its 25 million euro bond, and for an extra 10 million euros, it can get Motorola to destroy the infringing devices. For another 10 million euros beyond that, Apple can force Motorola to announce a recall.”

    “Motorola has been contesting the validity of this patent, ‘List Scrolling and Document Translation, Scaling, and Rotation on a Touch-screen display,’ through the entire case, though Apple has defended it successfully so far and will do so one more time in Mannheim Regional Court on December 7 before all is said and done,” Sage reports. “Has Google’s investment in Motorola as a patent bulwark proven to be effective or is it more of a liability?”


    Read more at http://macdailynews.com/2012/09/14/u...LDccP82sprP.99
    Last edited by GOB; 2012-09-15 at 01:43 AM.

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    If Apple felt they were FRAND patents and that HTC was being discriminatory, wouldn't they have litigated it already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    If Apple felt they were FRAND patents and that HTC was being discriminatory, wouldn't they have litigated it already?
    I'm not an expert in this stuff, but I don't think it's up to Apple to litigate. Apple may be using HTC patented technology in their products, and are willing to pay the appropriate licensing fee. HTC wants more, and Apple's refusing to pay. Thus, HTC is suing. Motorola has tried the same thing without success. FRAND patents are FRAND for a reason - it's comical seeing these megacompanies abusing them and expecting to get results.

    This is why it really annoys me when people think Apple is the patent troll in all this. It's absolutely the furthest thing from the truth.

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    Two million preorders for the iPhone 5 in the first 24 hours, more than double the number of preorders for the 4S. And AT&T says the iPhone 5 hit a sales record, with more orders received than for any previous iPhone model.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2012...iphone-5.html?

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    It's not often something so incredible is also so easy to predict and take advantage of. Apple has been an amazing company and stock, and still will for some time to come.

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    I wonder if the stock will take a hit from all the controversy over Apple's homegrown Maps app in iOS6. By all accounts it's a huge step backward from Google Maps. It certainly looks nicer, but looks don't count for much if entire towns are missing and directions don't work properly. There's quite an uproar about it, with many people claiming the iPhone is now useless as a navigation device, although it's worth noting that you can still access Google Maps via the web browser.

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    Pulling Google Maps makes Apple look a bit petty, and that they care more about their vendetta with Google than the user experience of their customers.


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