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    I will be doing my kitchen in the next year or so and for me I will make sure my sub floor is 100 percent up to grade to handle ceramic tile first. I won't remove old linoleum floor and instead go over top of this with plywood. Apparently you don't know for sure if asbestos was used in the lino so best to not remove it. Just so you don't get a Holmes on Holmes disaster you will want to make sure the plumbing, electrical and rough floor is done right and then move forward with the kitchen. So I wouldn't use a contractor and instead call in the pros by trade so I don't get a disaster. This may or may not cost more but you should get what you paid for.


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    Dogcom-the basement joists(2x10's or 2x12's-in older homes pre eng.joists)is the important factor.(what they are on center ie:2 ft/18 inch or 16 inch & telepost placement & the main beams running in the basement that the joists are attached-outside leaders ect)are what you need to look @ most.If they are not up to code or suffient the worst thing you could do is add another layer of weight over top of an exsisting floor and than put heavy tile on.

    Your better off ripping the subfloor right off(2 the joist work and start new)Its also better because you can properly glue and screw it.(nothing worst than screwing through multiple layers of flooring,and not getting the floor properly fastened.

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    It all depends on who you hire, or if you do it yourself and how complex you get....

    I'm just finishing a Reno on my kitchen and two bathrooms. I've got a very good contractor who quotes on a project cost. No fee creep, no worrying that they work slow and add to costs.

    He had access to a custom cabinet maker which was better quality, built to fit exactly and cheaper than Ikea.

    Picked up a vanity at the local hardware store for the bathroom. Overall, I'd say the bathrooms came in at 1-2k and the kitchen at about 10k after the plumbers. Everything new from the ground up. Of course, I used this guy a lot with my rentals, so I get a preferred rate.
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    Thanks Donald my house was built in the 70's and luckily for me there is only one layer of lino down on my floor not that it doesn't mean I have to do what you say. I will probably call in a floor specialist to look at it and tell me what it is I need or he needs to do to make sure it is 100 percent and see if what he says makes sense to me. It really ticks me off when the wife says just put this in or that in and we will do it for low cost and blah, blah. I have to tell her that all these structural issues must be satisfied first before we just slap in a new kitchen.

    These are the questions people need to ask in my opinion so they have a solid foundation, walls, floor and ceiling before they put the new stuff inside.

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    I agree with your thinking 100% dogcom.(that is where people can get into trouble)You can't make ice cream from sh%t or put lip stick on a pig and call it pretty(not re:to you,the masses).Most people hate/don't think about the really important area's(because it is generally what you can't see/feel/show off)in a house.

    People have been burned by house flipper's(and or sub contractor preying on people)-and it's always 2 late.Classic homes on homes disasters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Addy View Post
    How can I figure this out? Phone kitchen and bath renovation companies in the area we're moving to?
    I think that is a good idea. Along with all the variables others have mentioned - labour costs differ greatly in different areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico View Post
    You're right about the costs being all over the map but I'm sure you know it depends on the choices made (type of counter tops, appliances, etc.). There's also the issue of totally replacing the cupboards and redesigning the space or just replacing the doors.

    Naturally, the same applies to the bathroom (choices I mean).

    However, since I just asked my father-in-law (who used to be a home builder) about these very costs, he told me a bathroom reno is about $5000 to hire someone and $2500-3000 to do it ourselves (with his help). We did a bathroom in our previous house for about $2000; we tiled ourselves, toilet and vanity from Costco and shower from home depot installed by father-in-law.

    The kitchen is tougher . . . very ballpark figure is 20000-30000.

    I'm sure prices vary greatly across regions too. As others comment you'll get a better range of prices too.

    I did my upstairs bathroom for about $1500. Toilet, Vanity/top from "the Re-Store", tiles on sale for 70cents sqf, new drywall (mould resistant), tub and surround from lowes on sale roughly $400, GFCI outlit, a few towel racks (Thanks Wal-Mart) and paint.

    The issue with reno's is the time and the added expense of the unknown. In my case my bathroom was 3inches off square but it wasn't too hard to correct with some help.

    The kitchen shouldn't cost you 20k... it really depends what you do with it. Going like for like is normally around $3000ish if you don't need appliances and do the work yourself. I grabbed my appliances off Kijiji (21cf Fridge, smooth top stove, over the range nuke and dishwasher) for $500 because the gentalman bought a condo and didn't like the white appliances... SCORE! Since my kitchen is only 10x12 and Home Depot does their bi-month "truckload" cabinet event ($99 per cabinet, any size and yes they are LDF/MDF but they look awesome) you can get away fairly cheap. Just be a smart shopper and have friends who seriously know how to help with renos.

    I more thing, you could have a crummy home inspection and e-mail Mike Holmes to come do his show at your place. Worked for me LOL. I'm actually serious - Season 2

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    Considering the budget cost of renovating kitchens and bathrooms, I don't think everybody can afford this instantly. This is one of the best renovations to improve home value. This is also to happen to be the most expensive part of the house to remodel.

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    On an average renovating a small bathroom would cost about $8000-$10,000. The cost can vary based on the type of layout that you select for the bathroom. Select a layout that is simple and which works well with your current bathroom so that it could help you bring the cost down. A bathroom renovation would include buying a new sink, toilet and a bathtub. The cost of the materials could go up if you want any additional fixtures so if you are looking for a budget friendly renovation then I would suggest only buy the things that you really want. Here is a blog from avonlea renovation that mentions some designing ideas for small bathrooms http://www.avonlearenovations.com/bl...ern-bathrooms/ .

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    I had a number of quotes done on my 70 square foot main bathroom and I am looking at between 14 to 18 thousand depending on who I go with. Of course costs go up with the more expensive changes and upgrades. In BC drywall demo is a huge problem as the province has gone totally stupid on the possibility of asbestos. Many people are burying it or throwing it in the garbage piece by piece because of the stupid rules around it.


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