Wow, backyard chickens are even making the news in Montreal now:
you city people are funny. i think more people should move to the city...
All of society selfishly inflicts themselves on those around them. The only question is which side of the fence you are on given any particular issue. Do you want to selfishly inflict the banning of firearms, or selfishly inflict the allowance of firearms?
Originally Posted by the-royal-mail
That is a big part of why I moved to the country. So fewer people would selfishly inflict their desires on me. Didn't work though, McGuinty found me.
Like most things, it isn't the particular "hobby" that is the problem, but the individual practicing it.
It is too bad we can't repeal all the laws that ban everything and replace them with one law that bans one thing: stupid people.
As to the particulars of chickens, I have not done them yet. I did pigs for three years, but decided I won't again until I have better infrastructure, ie a fenced in field. It also lost money compared to just buying a pig from the butcher. The main goal was however preping new garden areas, which it did splendidly.
I do plenty of gardening. As someone said, most city people won't do anything which looks like work any more. I pay myself about $2/hour in this activity. But I would argue that what we buy in stores isn't food any more.
So if my veges are 5 times the taste/nutrition/freshness of the store stuff, then we are up to $10/hour.
Last edited by hboy43; 2010-05-03 at 09:30 AM.
I needed a laugh of the day, thanks hboy, very well said.
Originally Posted by hboy43
Unfortunately as Teddy Roosevelt noted "I can't believe that a full 50% of people are less than average in intelligence"
Wow, that's charitable! I would have said 90%...I guess that would be based on median rather than mean ;-)
Originally Posted by Berubeland
There's a kerfluffle around here about backyard chickens. Personally I'd love to have a few meat birds. I wouldnt' though, for two reasons:
1) neighbours, wrong as they are, would complain. While my attitude to that is 'tough, it's my backyard', there is a line that can be crossed when you're in suburbia. Chickens, if kept properly should be allowed, but it'd make everyone upset. Also, I don't want to be that one weird neigbhour raising chickens. I'd have to grow a beard I guess .
2) Roosters do actually crow bright and early. if you're rooster is crowing loud enough to wake me up at 5 am every single day, it's going to have a short life expectancy.
What I have done however, is built one of those square foot raised bed gardens. Really just to try it out, but my son loves it so we did it again this year. He'll eat the vegetables from it, and gets excited about the growth.
Same reason we tap a maple tree in our backyard. We get enough syrup for about two family pancake meals but it's a lot of fun with the kids, away from the TV.
Both of those are perfectly acceptable urban 'farming' things we can do - and that are fun for kids.
Since our illustrious mayor announced that backyard chickens would be allowed in Vancouver, there have been exactly 5 (count em) five applications for a permit. (Only slight less than the number of cyclists using his new 'green' bicycle lanes at any point in time)
Does anyone know off hand if the number of permits issued is public information? I know when I issued city permits (Vancouver) it was public knowledge but I'm not sure if thats the case for all permits issued. I'm going to call them on Friday is thats the case. Five wouldn't surprise me, given the Bylaw is so new, and with the time of year it's really to be expected the applicant numbers would be low.
Re: The cycling routes - thats odd, when we cycled there recently there were many cyclists. I guess things are improving.