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    For the travel bug - last thing you need to worry or have your vacation ruined:

    Jane Young lost $1,500 to fraud after reserving a hotel in England through Booking.com. ...

    http://www.thestar.com/business/pers...0_roseman.html ..
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    Who would have thunk that 1-800 # is not toll-free but here is it:

    1-800 charges linked to company accused of targeting seniors

    ... Online warnings about 1-800 number

    It turns out that ITD 1-800-533-5964 has a lot of people concerned....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver101 View Post
    Who would have thunk that 1-800 # is not toll-free but here is it:

    1-800 charges linked to company accused of targeting seniors
    Beav; I read that story on CBC News. The 80 odd year husband (who recently had to go into some kind of seniors LTC?) was the one that fell for it.

    It was some kind of discount coupon/travel promotion thing that he and she never used. Because he agreed to enroll and gave them THEIR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER to set up automatic monthly deductions, they were "on the hook" until someone (friend I think) called that 800 number to cancel the monthly withdrawals.

    The wife never was responsible for the financials during her marriage and depended on the husband to do it all, so she didn't have a clue about the monthly withdrawals..not a good thing in any case.

    Yes, it is still can be considered targeting seniors..but the spokesperson at the 800 number mentioned
    that "they don't specifically target seniors".......in other words..they will target anyone that responds to
    their phone calls and is naive enough to give them banking information for services that they really don't
    understand or can use.
    Last edited by carverman; 2014-12-03 at 12:39 PM.

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    Don't answer 1 800 calls.

    Don't give out ANY personal or financial info on the phone

    Don't bother with anything that is free. Even if you are a greedy goblin, nothing is free. Free is actually expensive.

    Hang up or do what my dear old Dad would do. Start to ask the following question and the caller will hang up on you immediately. The question?

    "Will welfare pay for that". He did it for two years running and saw a noticeable decrease in calls. I guess their name got removed from some call lists. He never got past saying will welfa....before they hung up on him. Drove my mother nuts.

    And if you do something stupid....don't blame it on everyone else. Look in the mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fraser View Post
    "Will welfare pay for that".
    One that I concocted, but haven't yet used, is "I was afraid it was another one of those collection agencies calling".
    Exit, pursued by a bear. (The Winter's Tale, Act III, scene 3.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by carverman View Post
    Beav; I read that story on CBC News. The 80 odd year husband (who recently had to go into some kind of seniors LTC?) was the one that fell for it.

    It was some kind of discount coupon/travel promotion thing that he and she never used. Because he agreed to enroll and gave them THEIR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER to set up automatic monthly deductions, they were "on the hook" until someone (friend I think) called that 800 number to cancel the monthly withdrawals.

    The wife never was responsible for the financials during her marriage and depended on the husband to do it all, so she didn't have a clue about the monthly withdrawals..not a good thing in any case.

    Yes, it is still can be considered targeting seniors..but the spokesperson at the 800 number mentioned
    that "they don't specifically target seniors
    " .......in other words..they will target anyone that responds to
    their phone calls and is naive enough
    to give them banking information for services that they really don't
    understand or can use.
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    Everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized.-A. Einstein

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    This thread "Little Black BooK of Scams" probably shouldn't be in the "Deals and Freebies" category, because the scams out there are neither deals nor freebies.

    I don't know how many of you caught the CTV W5 program yesterday (Dec 6th) on 'CHEATIN HEARTS' which is about the internet scams on dating sites like "matchdotcom" etc where the scammers prey on vulnerable females.

    In the W5 segment a woman around Guelph was taken for over $7000-10,000 when her "online friend" kept feeding her emails about what she wanted to hear, promising that they would meet soon..but in the meantime he was stuck in jam in Dubai when he "flew there on business" and lost his wallet and identity in a taxi . She offered to send him some money so he could get back to Canada.
    He insisted that the best and fastest way was by Western Union....
    At first <M.C.> declined <R's> offer but eventually he relented, promising to repay the money she advanced. Rosanna wired $7,000 via Western Union. It wasn’t until weeks later that she found out that it was all a con – her money had vanished along with Marc Campbell

    Now this next one..you really have to ask yourself....how can anyone be so naive (dumb) as to send money without ever meeting them face to face..it is unbelievable how she got sucked in with a "fraudster"that used a fake name and picture.

    Ellen told W5 that she met a man named <> online through Matchdotcom. What followed was an elaborate scheme that saw her send fraudsters more than one million dollars. But at the outset she was taken by his friendship.

    At first the amounts were small. But money transfer documents provided to W5, eventually showed hundreds of thousands of dollars being sent to Singapore, England, Spain and, eventually, Nigeria. In hindsight, Ellen says she doesn’t understand how she was conned into sending so much money. She believes that she may have been brainwashed.
    Of course she was brainwashed..she ended up transferring her ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS (around 1 million dollars Cdn) to these fraudsters.
    Everyone needs to wake up and understand that these social media sites are prime hunting grounds for fraud artists that can sweet talk you to wire them money. They are experts at this kind of crime and they never get caught, that is why it's so lucrative to them. On the internet, you can be anyone you want to be..fake names, fake pictures.
    fake identities..they don't exist...

    Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/w5-investig...#ixzz3LFhaAveA
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    ^ I can still recall, in Toronto in the early 1970s........a guy, (until he got caught), used to hit the bars of airport hotels on the weekend and tell unaccompanied women, (he didn't want 2-3 of them putting their heads together and perhaps figuring him out), that his private jet was undergoing emergency maintenance and that, not being from Toronto/Canada/Whatever, he had no readily available money.

    He pulled in $1,000s (or perhaps tens of $1,000s) before he was caught.

    Anyway......point of the story.....newspaper reporter went to see him and asked how he managed to pull it off....reporter said "You're nothing special, how did you do it?"

    Guy replied "They want to believe........they can see the 'big score' and think if they hand over their savings it could be them flying to exotic places in a private jet".


    (As the W.C. Fields movie said You Can't Cheat an Honest Man)
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    Not sure where to post this but definitely freebies here .... courtesy of Amazon ... gotta love that online vendor,

    Amazon Glitch Sends Man 51 Free Gifts

    https://ca.screen.yahoo.com/broken-n...000000160.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver101 View Post
    What I don't get is why are mostly females the victims and not the other way? Are females actually that dumb? It's good tv programming such as W5 to get constant news/warnings such as these out to the public.
    Pretty much most of these victims have been conned by joining these social media/friendship/romance sites (matchdotcom/christianmingle etc etc)..there are dozens of these out there in this day and age of the internet.
    Still trusting that basically everyone out there is honest and believing the TV advertising, that the actors portrayed found on the TV commericials found "true love" on a particular site and the "partner of their dreams".

    These are very powerful emotions that stem from 'affairs of the heart" that override common sense
    when they believe that they are on the track (or have found)... "the one" .to replace a void in their lonely lives from divorce, or perhaps becoming a widow.

    I wouldn't say that they are dumb when it comes most things..like day to day living....but these fraudsters are professional scammers......who know how to prey on their victims, and don't have any decency when it comes to bilking their victims. They manufacture the right words that the victims want to hear..convincing their victims that they are the actual people on the same site..with phony pictures and bios.

    Then once they have their victims "hooked", they come with "falling on hard times" stories to extract a little money at first..and once their victims fall into their trap...a lot more!
    It is well known that on the internet..you can be anyone you want to be, false identities are easy.
    With fraudsters working in teams to psychoanalyse and "read the minds" of the victims based on the victims response to their communications. They continually refine their responses convincing their victims that they can be truly believed, and they set the trap.

    On the same program, CTV did an expose on a group of internet fraudsters working out out the US and Nigeria where
    victims were conned out of thousands to help "US Soldiers" fighting in Afghanistan get artificial limbs for "limbs blown
    off" etc; and one even asks for money because he needed to buy a gun...of all things.

    The money they conned went to a 'US Gov't fund co-ordinating" address in Colorado that would forward the funds to the "soldiers". A mother and daughter were helping money launder that scam...they collected several million US ,and took 10% of the proceeds, while the rest was wired to Nigeria and elsewhere, by Moneygram and Western Union.

    While the US authorities could not trace the whereabouts of the offshore scammers (Russia/Ukraine/Nigeria etc), they
    did arrest and convict the two women, who are spending 10-15 years in a Colorado federal prison.
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