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    I suspect that Parti Quebecois election results are too muted to have any noticeable impact on the TSX. However, the recent propensity towards demonstrations, anti-business rhetoric, envy-politics, xenophobia, corruption and even violence cannot be good for the Quebec economy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey View Post
    ... the recent propensity towards demonstrations, anti-business rhetoric, envy-politics, xenophobia, corruption and even violence cannot be good for the Quebec economy.

    for a minute i thought you were describing canada at large.

    quebec doesn't have any greater degree of xenophobia, envy-politics, anti-business rhetoric, etc than any other canadian province.

    the may 2012 casseroles marches in montreal were models of civilized peace compared to violent G20 riots in toronto & violent stanley cup riots in vancouver.

    i never heard that a pot-banging casserole so much as cracked one store window. Police, too, were admirably gallant. On one evening police sent an email to organizers as the demonstrators gathered at the staging ground in parc emilie gamelin. "Begging you," the police wrote, "we do beg of you to take the first exit off the overpass to the right, in order to leave the main lanes open for traffic." Apparently the marchers complied.

    i am truly disappointed & saddened by the hatred for quebec that's coming from some posters in this forum. It makes me all the more grateful for an appreciation one member wrote upthread about the joys & pleasures of travelling in the gaspésie. There he saw how low-key & welcoming the people of quebec really are.

    what i think is that the rootstock people of quebec, taken in the mass, are a vital element in preventing the americanization - the plastification, if you please - of canada. In the same way as do newfoundlanders, maritimers, yukoners, prairie farmers & vancouver islanders, most quebecers uphold small-scale social values that are dear to us as a people, although unfortunately they have eroded significantly in the US.

    taken in the mass, quebecers tend to be a hardworking, respectful & small-c conservative people. One could even describe them as old-fashioned, as soon as one gets out of the cities & starts travelling down along the lower st-lawrence. A bonus is a native wit & creativity. To me, quebec always seems poised in a good spot between the preservationism of old provincial france & the edgy tear-it-all-down energy of the US.

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    quebec doesn't have any greater degree of xenophobia, envy-politics, anti-business rhetoric, etc than any other canadian province.
    By the way, I am fascinated by Quebec and their culture and also enjoy visiting the province. I listen to Quebec radio regularly in my ever ending quest to improve my French language abilities and I do perceive a difference in attitude. There definitely seems to be a greater propensity towards intervention in business and personal affairs (at least what I consider to be such). I don't think any politician in ROC could get elected, even as a minority government, after making similar statements or proposed policies to those of Pauline Marois regarding either business or minorities. I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by humble_pie View Post

    1. the may 2012 casseroles marches in montreal were models of civilized peace compared to violent G20 riots in toronto.......
    2. quebecers tend to be a hardworking, respectful & small-c conservative people.
    1. Excusez-moi, but many of them also came from other provinces and were not just Torontonian anarchists.
    2. You forgot that a great # of Olympic champions [present & past], come from there.

    For example:
    http://www.globalnews.ca/quebec+wins...315/story.html
    “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto.gal View Post
    2. You forgot that a great # of Olympic champions [present & past], come from there.
    And musicians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldCrump View Post
    And musicians.
    Well, I don't know all the musicians, but I know the divers, speed skaters, etc., etc.
    “Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto.gal View Post
    Well, I don't know all the musicians

    Arcade Fire

    speaking of harold's picture of céline,

    a while ago i was commenting to an ardent souvereigniste friend how, in reality, ms dion is a plain, gangly, totally ordinary-looking quebec woman. The voice is real, that's for sure, & so are the good heart & the thoughtfulness she always has for others. But the hairdos, the false extensions, the makeups, the plastic surgeries, the hollywood costumes ... it's easy to look through these & see the bony, unglamorous girl-next-door.

    my séparatist friend gave me a baffled look. But that's exactly why the people of quebec love céline so much, he said. She's just like us. Her hairdos don't matter.

    ok i get it. They don't love her because she's a rich, glittering celebrity star. They love her because what they see is a homely girl in a bathrobe, with her hair up in curlers, a girl with a voice to break your heart, who is tucking her children into bed for the night. Now that's a culture with some decent values ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by humble_pie View Post
    She's just like us. Her hairdos don't matter.

    ok i get it. They don't love her because she's a rich, glittering celebrity star. They love her because what they see is a homely girl in a bathrobe, with her hair up in curlers........... Now that's a culture with some decent values ...
    The people up in Cape Breton go one better......they've got Rita MacNeil!

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    I predict Quebec will stay together as long as Montreal keep supplying ROC with poutine bagels and smoked meat sandwiches.

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    If Quebec separates eventually I think we need to forcefully preserve a no fly zone to

    http://www.schwartzsdeli.com/

    I will drive 200 miles anytime for 2 of those.


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