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    Quote Originally Posted by doctrine View Post
    This is why dividends are so important for the long term investor. If you had purchased companies that were paying 5% dividends 5 years ago, you'd have 25% return if the stock prices remained the same,
    This is exactly why i like dividend champions/contenders with yield around and above 5%. Good examples are T.N and MO.N and because many investors are thinking the same way, appreciation of those is pretty nice


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    Quote Originally Posted by doctrine View Post
    This is why dividends are so important for the long term investor. If you had purchased companies that were paying 5% dividends 5 years ago, you'd have 25% return if the stock prices remained the same,
    This is exactly why i like dividend champions/contenders with yield around and above 5%. Good examples are T.N and MO.N and because many investors are thinking the same way, appreciation of those is pretty nice

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    Over the past four out of five weeks, investors have taken more out of U.S. equity markets than they have put in.

    What does that say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belguy View Post
    Over the past four out of five weeks, investors have taken more out of U.S. equity markets than they have put in.

    What does that say?
    it says that eventually they will have to start buying equities because they will soon realize that they aren't generating enough return on their capital ... you simply cannot survive on ten-year treasuries ... the first rule is preservation of capital but it becomes moot if you make so little on your capital that you a forced to draw from it ... sooner or later there will be something resembling good news and the rush to get back into equities will begin

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatcat View Post
    it says that eventually they will have to start buying equities because they will soon realize that they aren't generating enough return on their capital ... you simply cannot survive on ten-year treasuries ... the first rule is preservation of capital but it becomes moot if you make so little on your capital that you a forced to draw from it ... sooner or later there will be something resembling good news and the rush to get back into equities will begin

    Ya think?

    Underlining stats look as gloomy as ever.
    Preservation is what is going on now, not return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miser View Post
    Underlining stats look as gloomy as ever.
    Preservation is what is going on now, not return.
    Mutual Fund flows are very good contrarian indicators. Retail investors are notoriously for their bad timing.
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    As an aside, and without starting a new topic, CNBC's 'Getting Back to Business', a town hall event', premiers Wednesday night at 9 P.M. and includes Kevin O'Leary as a panelist.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/47741804

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    it doesn't sound much different than Dragon's Den or Shark Tank.... they should have called it Snake Pit, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belguy View Post
    Over the past four out of five weeks, investors have taken more out of U.S. equity markets than they have put in.

    What does that say?
    I am guilty of this ,took 100% of my USD stuff out for a profit .But my reason had nothing to do with what i think of USA just the rest of my portfolio was crappy so i booked some profits.

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    In the past when mutual funds cash levels are @ historic lows the market is near or @ a historic high i.e., 2000 , 2007 @ bottoms cash level are high. Rydex cash levels & percent of cash in bull or bear funds a lot of traders find is a good indicator.


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