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    What about doctors in Mexico? Do you buy some private insurance or paying per visit? Same question about drugs.... btw, are Canadian prescriptions valid in Mexico?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eder View Post
    RBull...all rental cars in Mexico are rented with required liability,its the law down here. The gringo scam is to say that 5 million liability is required in Jalisico (province) which is BS but most newbies pay it. If you want collision etc that should be no more than $5/day extra...I dont bother.

    Another gringo scam is the Turista police to ticket you for no registration on your rental car...this is more BS...keep the rental agencies phone number in case you get shook down with this, the rental agreement is your registration.

    I will say though that in all the driving I have done in Mexico only the Bucerious area and CD Constitution on the Baja are regular gringo traffic traps.
    Thanks for clarifying what you meant earlier and for the additional information.

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    Gibor: Everything is available over the counter-no need for some quack's chicken scratchings.

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    Theres a hospital next to me here...$60 to see a doctor buy since we are in Nuevo Vallarta its a bit pricey...$40 is more like it in Bucerious.
    Prescriptions are same as Canada...drugs are very reasonable . You can get most stuff over the counter other than things like opiates...you even need a prescription for Tylenol 1's here lol.
    We got our dental done here...about $28 to clean teeth by a dentist that included a check up.Wife took care of 2 filings to fix...that cost just over $50 each. We made an appointment but there were 2 dentists and 6 hygienists and we could have had walk in service. Very clean/modern/professional. We wont use dentists in Canada again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomB16 View Post
    Budget is a harder question. While we could afford quite a bit, I don't see why we would go to rural Mexico and spend the same amount we could spend in Purtugal, Spain, or Italy. I would like to get away with about $5000 CDN for 3~4 weeks. In future, we would want to keep it under about $4K CDN per month, based on a 5 month stay. I'm hoping we could do it for $3K CDN.
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    We want ocean. We like to swim and snorkel. Also, we love beaches. We don't need the entire time to be on the ocean but it would be fine if it was.
    You sound like ideal candidates for Mexico. Our friends from Toronto have rented a 2BR/2Bath condo overlooking the ocean for C$3700 for Jan-Mar. It is at the southern end of the beach walk that starts at the south side of Marina Vallarta and ends in lower Conchas Chinas. They have dog so had limited choices.
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    That's exactly what we want. We want to buy groceries, cook, and go to the places the locals do. We don't want to be in a tourist cocoon.
    The beach tends to attract gringos because of the high price and Mexican tourists because they want the water.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eder View Post
    Tom, if I was you I would stick to the Baja initially...its one long beach, not too many club meds....mostly locals. Maybe buy a motorhome or class C of some kind to tour on. Theres an incredible number of camping spots . No disco or zip lines till you hit the end at Cabo which is completely forgettable. You may want to join a Baja caravan...cost maybe $1200 for a few weeks of being shown around then back across the border...like a Mexican wading pool to get your feet wet. After that you'll know the ropes & branch out from there. We used Baja Winters many years ago was well worth it!
    My friend from Calgary owns in Baja. The prices are high (because of the proximity to California).
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    What about doctors in Mexico? Do you buy some private insurance or paying per visit? Same question about drugs.... btw, are Canadian prescriptions valid in Mexico?
    GP is 500 pesos, specialist is 700 pesos. Although many drugs are available without prescriptions, reputable pharmacies demand a local prescription per visit: Costco and Farmacia Guadalajara.
    Quote Originally Posted by RBull View Post
    Thanks for clarifying what you meant earlier and for the additional information.
    Car insurance is available online from SoCal.

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    Driving to and within Mexico doesn't present any issue but you will need a couple of things, assuming you will be there as a tourist for a relatively short period. First, you need to get your FMM (Forma Migratoria Múltiple) which is essentially a tourist "visa" valid for up to 180 days that you get from the INM ( Instituto Nacional de Migración). If you drive there, you will get it at the border or on line before your departure. Cost is now 500 pesos. If you fly, it will be handed to you during the flight by the flight attendants and in this case, the cost in included in the fare. Do not lose it, you need to hand it to the INM before flying back to Canada, or at the aduana office when you leave Mexico (most people don't hand it back but legally we are required to do so), otherwise you will have to pay again to get a new one, plus the bureaucratic red-tape they might try to impose on you.

    Second important thing when you plan to drive in Mexico is to obtain Mexican auto insurance, wherever you are driving in Mexico. Canadian-US auto insurance is not valid in Mexico. Again, you can get it before crossing into Mexico (I get mine from Don Smith in Nogales), or on line. If you stay for an extended period of time, you can cancel or suspend your Canadian auto insurance temporarily while you are insured in Mexico. Don't forget to reinstate your insurance before crossing back into the USA. My Mexican insurance cost about $400 per year, full coverage and liability, for a 2004 Nissan X-Terra.

    Next is the Temporary Import Permit (TIP) for your vehicle. If you only travel to the Mexico Free Zone (all of the Mexican state of Baja and portions of Sonora), you are not required to have a TIP. Otherwise, you must get it, either on line, or at a Banjercito office at the border. The TIP is valid for up to 180 days and should match the validity of your FMM. It includes the fee ($44US + tax) and a refundable deposit that varies from $200US to $400US depending on the age of your vehicle. This deposit is refundable as long as you stop at the Banjercito office to cancel it before it expires. This must be done or you lose the deposit.

    Driving is Mexico is not very different from driving elsewhere. Just don't drive at night, not because of bandidos, but because you won't be able to see pot-holes the size of VW bugs, giant topes (speed bumps), burros, chicken, cattle, goats handing on the road, pedestrians, cyclists, drunk drivers, cars without headlights, etc. But other than that, driving in Mexico is not a big issue, and while Mexican drivers can sometime drive like maniacs, they are not aggressive whatsoever. Mexican roads are not so bad especially if you stick to toll roads, but you would then miss most of the best places, little pueblos, etc. I personally try to avoid toll roads, not because of cost, but because I enjoy driving slowly, no more than 3-4 hours a day, and stop at little pueblos to check out the outdoor markets and have lunch. As for road blocks or police, we hear a lot of horror stories. In our case, every road block we had to stop, the police officers waved us, or if we had to stop, they were very pleasant and polite and let us go after asking a few questions and checking our documents. No bribe (mordita), no threat, no attempt to ticket us for something we didn't do or didn't have. We may or may not have been lucky, but that was our experience driving 25,000 km over six months. In some areas (Chiapas, Michoacan, etc.), you might get stopped at a road block manned by masked community "vigilantes" armed with guns. Just smile and wave, and drop 10-15 pesos in the donation bucket and you're good to go. If you want, you can keep a few cold beverages in your car for the guys. They always appreciate the gesture.

    That's the easy part. The rest is up to you. To tell you how much my wife and I enjoy Mexico, our original plan was to drive the Americas from the Arctic to Patagonia over a period of two and a half years, with a one-month stay in Mexico before crossing to Central America. After spending our first month in Mexico, we realized that passing through this incredible country in a month wouldn't do it justice, so we decided to stick around the whole winter, and go back next fall for more. We might just scrap our original plan entiredly and hang out in Mexico for several years. And Mexicans as a group are probably the most gracious people on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eder View Post
    Theres a hospital next to me here...$60 to see a doctor buy since we are in Nuevo Vallarta its a bit pricey...$40 is more like it in Bucerious.
    Prescriptions are same as Canada...drugs are very reasonable . You can get most stuff over the counter other than things like opiates...you even need a prescription for Tylenol 1's here lol.
    We got our dental done here...about $28 to clean teeth by a dentist that included a check up.Wife took care of 2 filings to fix...that cost just over $50 each. We made an appointment but there were 2 dentists and 6 hygienists and we could have had walk in service. Very clean/modern/professional. We wont use dentists in Canada again.
    Just to specify
    I need lipitor (for cholesterol) , coversyl and amiodipine (for blood pressure). Can I buy them over the counter?
    Or I need to go to some GP for prescription?
    And if you know what would be approximate cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomB16 View Post
    Budget is a harder question. While we could afford quite a bit, I don't see why we would go to rural Mexico and spend the same amount we could spend in Purtugal, Spain, or Italy. I would like to get away with about $5000 CDN for 3~4 weeks. In future, we would want to keep it under about $4K CDN per month, based on a 5 month stay. I'm hoping we could do it for $3K CDN.
    Your budget is more than enough, of course depending on your taste. Just for comparison's sake, here is what we will be renting next January in Melaque. Monthly rental, kitchen, bathroom, separate bedroom with two double beds, nice outdoor area to relax, one block from the beach, for 7,500 pesos all inclusive. Most simple studios and bungalows in that area are in that price range, but you can find much cheaper once you get to know people and ask around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibor365 View Post
    Just to specify
    I need lipitor (for cholesterol) , coversyl and amiodipine (for blood pressure). Can I buy them over the counter?
    Or I need to go to some GP for prescription?
    And if you know what would be approximate cost?
    I don't know about these meds, but when I was in Mexico (Melaque), I needed to get blood pressure medication (Diovan). I went to the free clinic without an appointment, told the receptionist I was just visiting and had no coverage, no problem, the consultation was still free (I left a 300 pesos donation, about $20), waited no more than 30 minutes to see the doctor, had the most pleasant chat with him, he was very professional and took all the time in the world to get to know me and my medical history, and had my prescription filled at the drugstore next to the clinic for $4. Here in Canada, my cost is $30. What a refreshing experience. I don't know about major medical issues, but for routine issues, I thought Mexico's system beat Canada hands down.

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    Curious, how much cost to rent for 1 month simple car with insurance that include everything from a scratch and without deductible?


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