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    Vehicular mass murder in Sweden. Chances are it's an atheist terrorist attack. After all, the majority of Swedes are atheists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mordko View Post
    Vehicular mass murder in Sweden. Chances are it's an atheist terrorist attack. After all, the majority of Swedes are atheists.
    The irony is that no country has gotten down on its knees for Islam like Sweden has-and still it isn't enough.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ple-stockholm/

    Sounds like atheists to me as well because Islam is far too nice and peaceful to have anything to do with this.

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    ^just a remarkable coincidence. Either all crazy people are Muslims or Islam is very effective at converting crazy to violent mass murderers.

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    But, but, racism. But..the crusades, but all those Christian and Catholic armies out there committing beheadings, rapes, terrorist acts, trying to obtain weapons of mass destruction and openly declaring war on western values, those are the real problems we should be looking at.

    How much evidence do we need to be conscious enough to realize that maybe we made, and are still currently making a dangerous mistake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    ^just a remarkable coincidence. Either all crazy people are Muslims or Islam is very effective at converting crazy to violent mass murderers.
    You are making some serious errors in logic -- I thought you were smarter than that. One quarter of the world's population is Muslim. You have to look at the ratio of incidents of crazy/dangerous vs total population before you declare that there are more crazy Muslims than in other religions.

    The US has a very large number of incidents of crazy, violent attacks and the perpetrators are nearly always Christian. Examples of crazy attacks are the Oklahoma City bombing and plenty of other domestic terrorism, not to mention all the mass shootings, high school shootings, and just plain old violent crime ... a very high rate of violent crime and murders.

    I mention the US because it's a big country. And in the US, the number of victims from homicides, murders, etc very far exceeds any incidents of islamic terrorism. In the UK, terrorism carried out by IRA (Christians) plagued the country and took thousands of victims.

    Most of the countries in the world with the highest rates of violent crime are predominantly Christian.

    Based on that fact alone, I seriously question whether Islam has a higher proportion of crazy/violent people vs other religions. Go look into how many civilians have been slaughtered by African dictators, warlords in civil wars, Khmer Rouge, Stalin, Hitler.
    Last edited by james4beach; 2017-04-08 at 03:02 AM.

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    Yes, how dare you raise the issue of Islamism when talking about terrorism in the west? Because the real problem here, the real threat, which is staring us in the face, is cannibalism. Very violent cannibalism. It was routinely practiced by Neanderthals. Who were, of course, European. Talking about anything else is an obvious logical fallacy.

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    Incidentally, just as Stalin's regime was in the midst of committing genocides, just as it was enslaving us, the western progressives were defending it by explaining that it's all lack of logic, a pack of lies, and in any case didn't matter because Hitler. And Amerikkka was, in any case far, far worse.

    And then when Khmer Rouge were committing mass murder, western progressives, such as Chomsky, were explaining that it was a logical fallacy, a pack of lies designed to besmirch communism. And that all the real atrocities were committed by the west because Vietnam.

    So now Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Turkey, Algeria, Syria and the rest of the 50+ Muslim dictatorship racist misogynist murderous shitholes are suddenly the most wonderful and peaceful places on earth because Hitler and Stalin and Khmer Rouge and there are a lot of robberies in Venezuela which is Christian so there.

    Mindboggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5Lgreenback View Post
    But, but, racism. But..the crusades, but all those Christian and Catholic armies out there committing beheadings, rapes, terrorist acts, trying to obtain weapons of mass destruction and openly declaring war on western values, those are the real problems we should be looking at.

    How much evidence do we need to be conscious enough to realize that maybe we made, and are still currently making a dangerous mistake?
    The suspect in the Westminster case had a pronounced history of racially motivated violence that can't be swept under the rug as some here would do in their zeal to advance their diatribe.

    Masood was a convert to Islam. He served time for stabbing a man in the face with a knife. He was Black. The victim was White. The crime was said to be racially motivated. He also served time for another knifing. He was convicted of other disturbances. He definitely had an anger
    management problem. We can't rule out the possibility that his attack at Westminster bridge was racially motivated. He did not fit the profile of a typical terrorist: he was 52 . Terrorists are usually much younger.

    There was little evidence of involvement and recruitment by online terrorists.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_W...ttack#Attacker


    On 22 March, the day of the attack, the Metropolitan Police said it believed the attack was inspired by "international terrorism"[70][71] and that they were working under the assumption that it was "Islamist-related terrorism".[72][73][74] On 23 March, the Islamic State-associated Amaq News Agency announced that the attacker was "a soldier of the Islamic State, executing the operation in response to calls to target citizens of coalition nations".[75] The Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, cast doubts on this claim.[76] Analysts monitoring Islamic State online said the claim appeared to be an effort to mask its losses in Iraq and Syria, adding that the lack of biographical information on the attacker and lack of specifics about the attack suggested it was not directly involved.

    Describing Masood as a "terrorist",[78] the Metropolitan Police said it was investigating whether he was a lone actor inspired by terrorist propaganda or was being directed by others.[79] On 25 March Neil Basu, Deputy Assistant Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police and Senior National Coordinator for UK Counter-Terrorism Policing, announced that investigators believed Masood acted alone, adding: "there is a possibility we will never understand why he did this".[80] On 27 March, Basu announced that Masood clearly had an interest in jihad, that his methods echoed the rhetoric of Islamic State leaders and that investigators have found no evidence he was linked with it or al-Qaeda.[81][62]

    "there is a possibility we will never understand why he did this"

    Reality is not as simple as some online zealots would have it. There are often many reasons why a person does an act.

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    Looks like the Swedes got off lightly. Unlike his London brother in arms, the Stockholm Islamist mass murderer had explosives in his vehicle.


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