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    Quote Originally Posted by bass player View Post
    After seeing that he paid $38 million in tax, you would have thought that they'd bury it rather than go public. No matter how much Maddow ranted and tried to make him look bad, all that matters today is that everyone now knows that Trump paid $38 million in taxes in 2005.

    It's likely that Trump was the one who released his return and MSNBC was too stupid to realize that he was setting them up all along.

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    So someone in Trump's org committed a felony by leaking his tax filing?


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    Trump is having trouble walking back his false wiretap accusation. He needed to change the narrative and used the 2005 tax return stunt. He picked 2005 because it is a favourable year for him.

    The Russian connection and the false wiretap allegation won't go away. The narrative hasn't changed and it won't change.
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    Well, he's just dumb enough to think that leaking part of his 2005 return was a good idea, "Hey see, I paid a lot of taxes".

    But as is being noted, the fact is that this also makes obvious how much he wouldn't have paid if the elimination of AMT he is proposing was to become law ($5.3MM instead of $36.6MM). It also demonstrates that even with the AMT that year, he paid less of his income (24%) than most Americans.

    To add to the gong show, today he notes that the ongoing challenges to his travel ban make Amercia look bad. LOL. Please, someone tell him - it is he who makes America look bad, like some primetime comedy show. Remember Laugh In?

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    He looks bad Rob Ford style. The other politicians are just bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    So someone in Trump's org committed a felony by leaking his tax filing?
    No. it's not a felony to release information from your own tax return, or even to show it to millions on TV. However, it is a felony for anyone else to do so. If Trump, or someone that he gave permission to released it, no laws were broken.

    If Maddow didn't have Trump's permission, then she broke the law. But, as usual when the left does something that might be illegal, no one seems to care or follow up. You can guarantee that those questions would have been asked if it was Fox news releasing Obama's return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyMyOpinion View Post
    It also demonstrates that even with the AMT that year, he paid less of his income (24%) than most Americans?
    Are you claiming that "most" Americans pay more than 24% in tax? Where did you get that number? And how much is "most"?

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    Some taxes paid by Trump in 2005 completely miss the point.

    People want to know the source of the income and debts that are owed. How much and to whom ?

    That is why they want his returns released.

    This is a one page document that was released, photocopied on each side front and back.

    Tax lawyers estimated that Trump's 2005 tax probably contained 12,000 pages.

    Release the rest of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass player View Post
    If Maddow didn't have Trump's permission, then she broke the law. But, as usual when the left does something that might be illegal, no one seems to care or follow up. You can guarantee that those questions would have been asked if it was Fox news releasing Obama's return.
    Wrong. that questions was asked and answered. Maddow's lawyers advised her that the first amendment and SCOTUS interpretation protected her right to publicize a document received via USPS.
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    Finally a funny SNL skit as the smart dog scares the hell out of the precious little snowflakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfCCwEf_J5A

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivaw View Post
    Wrong. that questions was asked and answered. Maddow's lawyers advised her that the first amendment and SCOTUS interpretation protected her right to publicize a document received via USPS.
    And you believe that? C'mon...even you're not that gullible.

    Getting a document from USPS doesn't suddenly make it legal to publicly disclose personal or business tax information.


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