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    Quote Originally Posted by humble_pie View Post
    many reliable surveys have placed support for trump's new anti-immigrant orders at just over a third of US voters.
    What anti-immigrant order? 7 known terrorist countries out of close to the 200 in the world have a temporary ban. That's less than 4%. How can it be anti-immigrant if 96% of the world's countries are not affected?

    Rasmussen says 57% approve of the temporary ban. That's a solid majority, not "just over a third".

    The fascists on the left refuse to accept the fair results of a democratic election and have resorted to violence and endless protests. Their hatred and disdain for democracy is opening people's eyes and they are losing support every day.

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    ^^


    you forgot to tell us about barack obama's *lies* & his *law-breaking*

    so tell us . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by humble_pie View Post
    you forgot to tell us about barack obama's *lies* & his *law-breaking*

    so tell us . .
    Why don't you already know? The facts are a matter of public record. However, if your only source of information is left wing media then it's understandable that you may not be aware.

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    rasmussen report?
    every media agrees
    it's another conservative pro-republican polling service

    these polls have been done like dinner
    the trolls keep posting numbers like 66% trump approval
    the moderate democrats keep citing low trump numbers in the 30% range

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass player View Post
    Why don't you already know? The facts are a matter of public record. However, if your only source of information is left wing media then it's understandable that you may not be aware.

    there you go again

    another typical dysfunctional reply from an extremist who hasn't got a leg to stand on

    you don't have a source & you are the one who is making up lies
    you couldn't even understand your own linked Politifact article

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    I don't know if anyone can figure out the basis of picking these 7 particular countries for a ban. I saw a Trump aid interviewed on CNN and he couldn't point to any data to support the choice of these particular countries. As far as I can find, none of the 911 terrorists came from these countries. Most came from Saudi Arabia - a country that still practices be-headings, crucifixions and has one of the worst records for treatment of women. However, Saudi Arabia is not on the list. It seems the only common thread in the countries picked is that most are poor. I watched on the news about a young fellow whose owed a corner store in N.Y for years. His young wife and infant daughter went home for a family visit and were in limbo unable to return home under Trumps rules - hopefully they can get back now that a judge has reversed the executive order. A young lady and her infant daughter don't seem to be too much of a terrorist threat to me.
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    There probably should be more than 7 countries on the list. Trump chose to go with the information and recommendation from the previous government.

    It's just a 90 day temporary ban...bans have happened before and will happen again. The only difference is that this time unhappy people are using it as another excuse to get outraged. Had Obama enacted the same legislation, CNN would be praising him on his attempt to keep America safe.

    Regarding the lady and infant daughter...of course that's what the media shows. Even though healthy young males are likely a larger demographic, the media will never use their images. We've all seen some pictures of hundreds of refugee gatherings and 80% or more of them are healthy young males.

    Another issue that is always overlooked...most healthy young males in Canada and the US would stay and fight for their country in times of trouble rather than flee.

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    Saudi Arabia, which produced most of the 911 terrorists will never be on the list. This ban, with no warning, is unprecedented and left border officials scrambling. It is not reasonable to say that any leader would be praised for this. As far as I'm aware, all of those affected have been previously screened and lawfully admitted to the United States. Apparently the ban applied to 500,000 green card holders. Usually women and children make up the larger majority of refugees. This ban has broken up families and affected children so of course the media will show this, they would be irresponsible if they didn't. It is difficult to see how even Trump supporters cannot see any problem whatsoever with this.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politi...children-trnd/

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    I do, Saudi Arabian laws are similar to ISIS. Money and oil has a ring here and this is where business may be colliding with Trumps actions. He may feel he needs Saudi oil and money to help make America great again. I think Saudi Arabia may see some extra oil in Yemen as well.

    By the way spidey it is good to see you in action again.

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    referring to CNN propaganda, it's like referring to newspaper "Pravda" during CCCP


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