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    Health care, value per dollar

    This uses slightly old data (2014) and charts life expectancy vs health expenditure for each country. I thought it was an interesting chart. If we assume that life expectancy is a reasonable measure of the "value" you're getting from health care, then it seems that Canada is in the middle of the pack

    http://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-...-not-good-way/

    What do you make of this? South Korea looks like an interesting case, as it's a very advanced country and yet seems to get great bang-for-the-buck in healthcare.

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    Two comments.

    The first is that it is my understanding that health care costs in the US are rising faster than all other countries. Currently in the 12-13 percent of GDP. Apparently on track hit the dangerous (economically for the nation's competitiveness) number of 18 percent.

    I saw some Pew Research numbers a month or so ago. The mortality numbers look very different if you look at them thru a socioeconomic lens. Mortality rates under age one show a significant variance,for example, in the post hospital birth period. Children in lower socioeconomic groups appear to have a much higher chance of dying than those in the middle and upper socioeconomic groups.

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    The point being missed here is that lifestyle is a much better determinant of health and longevity than is health care. For example, the Japanese have a long lifespan, mostly because they eat lots of fish and few carbohydrates. The US, on the other hand.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjude View Post
    The point being missed here is that lifestyle is a much better determinant of health and longevity than is health care. For example, the Japanese have a long lifespan, mostly because they eat lots of fish and few carbohydrates. The US, on the other hand.......
    Yes, mainly because no healthcare system exists-it is a sickcare system. Theoretically, a superb healthcare system (improving the overall health of the population) would have very few patients and very little revenue or employment-which would be a problem for that growing industry obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyjude View Post
    The point being missed here is that lifestyle is a much better determinant of health and longevity than is health care. For example, the Japanese have a long lifespan, mostly because they eat lots of fish and few carbohydrates. The US, on the other hand.......
    Yes, also the interpretation of poor value for increased healthcare costs might be backwards.

    The costs skyrocket in direct response to early heart and lung disease, cancer, stroke. But fail to address the root causes of poor diet, obesity, high stress/blood pressure, lack of exercise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightcycle View Post
    Yes, also the interpretation of poor value for increased healthcare costs might be backwards.

    The costs skyrocket in direct response to early heart and lung disease, cancer, stroke. But fail to address the root causes of poor diet, obesity, high stress/blood pressure, lack of exercise.
    The sickcare system costs a fortune-how much money is spent to subsidize the consumption of fruits and vegetables? Basically nothing. There is no healthcare system.


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