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The story is that the media got the story from Buzzfeed, not the intelligence committee.
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\nThe story is also that the intelligence committee presented it to Obama and Trump as an "unverified" addition to the full report.
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\nThe theory is the President and President - elect should know what is circulating in the media in advance of publication.
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\nIf the intelligence committee presented the report to Obama and Trump as a verified report, I agree it was a blatant failure by the intelligence committee, and in that instance it would appear as "payback" to Trump by the intelligence agencies, and that just can\'t be allowed to happen.
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\nEveryone on both sides of the politics in the US needs to take a step back and consider the consequences of the animosity.
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\nThe people won\'t know what or who to believe and it undermines the authority of the President.
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\nTrump is going to be the President. I consider him as highly volatile, dangerous and without many moral standards.......but it is the self interest of everyone to have Trump surrounded by capable and strong people who aren\'t afraid to speak out and take charge if it came to that.
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\nMike Pence is such a VP and despite his shortcomings......so is Senator Jeff Sessions....although I disagree with their politics.
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\nThe fawning and smirky Ted Cruz types, wouldn\'t be of much value in a crisis situation.
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\nIn plain language.........if Trump gets nutsy it is better to have strong people who will take charge immediately.
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I guess you are unaware of the long history of US intelligence agencies spreading disinformation.\r\n
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    \r\n While it may serve their purpose in the clandestine world of security and intelligence to spread disinformation about enemies, I am unaware of US intelligence agencies spreading false information about their own President.
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    \nFBI Director, Hoover did keep a dossier on JFK, RFK and others, but he didn\'t make it publicly known.
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    \nThat would simply be an intolerable situation, and should be considered treasonous behaviour.
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    \nThe US intelligence agencies don\'t have to "like" the President or his politics. That isn\'t their function.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by sags\r\n View Post\r\n
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    While it may serve their purpose in the clandestine world of security and intelligence to spread disinformation, I am unaware of US intelligence agencies spreading false information about their own President.
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    \nThat would simply be an intolerable situation, and should be considered treasonous behaviour.
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    \nThe US intelligence agencies don\'t have to "like" the President or his politics. That isn\'t their function.
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    Do some research-JFK had lots of problems with the CIA when he was POTUS-and he wasn\'t the only one. Don\'t believe everything you hear on CNN.\r\n
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    \r\n Sorry, I was typing Hoover\'s role in when you responded.
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    \r\nBut you are right, although I don\'t recall Hoover making the information public during their administration.
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    \r\nI could stand corrected, but that is what I recall.\r\n
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    \r\n On the separation of Trump\'s businesses from his politics.
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    \r\n The unforseen fallout from the non-stop attack on Trump by the media and Democrats is that their credibility is shot. One day they might report a real scandal or crime by Trump and no one will believe them.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by bass player\r\n View Post\r\n
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    The unforseen fallout from the non-stop attack on Trump by the media and Democrats is that their credibility is shot. One day they might report a real scandal or crime by Trump and no one will believe them.
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    I totally agree with you there.
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    \nWay too much angst on the side of the Democrats and CNN has given too much air time to guests and shows that focus on the "tragedy of Trump" from the liberal perspective.
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    \nI will also say the CNN panel of Trump supporters have done an admirable job, and I see that CNN has replaced some of the more "shrill" Clinton supporters with more refined guests to represent the Democrat side.
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    \nPersonally, I don\'t care to watch another Van Jones special on how Clinton supporters are "coping" with the loss.
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    \nThey cry wolf too many times, and I agree........people won\'t believe them anymore.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by sags\r\n View Post\r\n
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    I totally agree with you there.
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    \nWay too much angst on the side of the Democrats and CNN has given too much air time to guests and shows that focus on the "tragedy of Trump" from the liberal perspective.
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    \nThey cry wolf too many times, and I agree........people won\'t believe them anymore.
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    Also, the rules have changed. Politicians used to rely on the mainstream media to get their message out to the public. But, the internet has changed that and they are no longer as important as they used to be. Trump knows he doesn\'t need the mainstream media and therefore can take actions against those who he feels lie or stretch the truth.
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by sags\r\n View Post\r\n
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    I totally agree with you there.
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    \nWay too much angst on the side of the Democrats and CNN has given too much air time to guests and shows that focus on the "tragedy of Trump" from the liberal perspective.
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    \nI will also say the CNN panel of Trump supporters have done an admirable job, and I see that CNN has replaced some of the more "shrill" Clinton supporters with more refined guests to represent the Democrat side.
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    \nPersonally, I don\'t care to watch another Van Jones special on how Clinton supporters are "coping" with the loss.
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    \nThey cry wolf too many times, and I agree........people won\'t believe them anymore.
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    I read a poll the other day that 33% of CNN VIEWERS think they report the news honestly-it is like watching Jerry Springer.\r\n
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pn[1424042] = "1424034,1424082"; pn[1424082] = "1424042,1424098"; pn[1424098] = "1424082,1424114"; pn[1424114] = "1424098,1424162"; pn[1424162] = "1424114,1424170"; pn[1424170] = "1424162,1425034"; pn[1425034] = "1424170,1425066"; pn[1425066] = "1425034,1425098"; pn[1425098] = "1425066,1425106"; pn[1425106] = "1425098,1425114"; pn[1425114] = "1425106,1425138"; pn[1425138] = "1425114,1425202"; pn[1425202] = "1425138,1425234"; pn[1425234] = "1425202,1425410"; pn[1425410] = "1425234,1425426"; pn[1425426] = "1425410,1425434"; pn[1425434] = "1425426,1425538"; pn[1425538] = "1425434,1425754"; pn[1425754] = "1425538,1425778"; pn[1425778] = "1425754,1426426"; pn[1426426] = "1425778,1426897"; pn[1426897] = "1426426,1427089"; pn[1427089] = "1426897,1427113"; pn[1427113] = "1427089,1427121"; pn[1427121] = "1427113,1425770"; pn[1425770] = "1427121,1425786"; pn[1425786] = "1425770,1425818"; pn[1425818] = "1425786,1425850"; pn[1425850] = "1425818,1425874"; pn[1425874] = "1425850,1425914"; pn[1425914] = "1425874,1425954"; pn[1425954] = "1425914,1425962"; pn[1425962] = "1425954,1425986"; pn[1425986] = "1425962,1426018"; pn[1426018] = "1425986,1426122"; pn[1426122] = "1426018,1426394"; pn[1426394] = "1426122,1426442"; pn[1426442] = "1426394,1426905"; pn[1426905] = "1426442,1427001"; pn[1427001] = "1426905,1427177"; pn[1427177] = "1427001,1427194"; pn[1427194] = "1427177,1426434"; pn[1426434] = "1427194,1424298"; pn[1424298] = "1426434,1424506"; pn[1424506] = "1424298,1424514"; pn[1424514] = "1424506,1424762"; pn[1424762] = "1424514,1423626"; pn[1423626] = "1424762,1423890"; pn[1423890] = "1423626,1422722"; pn[1422722] = "1423890,1422650"; pn[1422650] = "1422722,1421418"; pn[1421418] = "1422650,1421426"; pn[1421426] = "1421418,1421482"; pn[1421482] = "1421426,1421162"; pn[1421162] = "1421482,1421170"; pn[1421170] = "1421162,1421194"; pn[1421194] = "1421170,1421506"; pn[1421506] = "1421194,1420842"; pn[1420842] = "1421506,1418994"; pn[1418994] = "1420842,1418570"; pn[1418570] = "1418994,1418610"; pn[1418610] = "1418570,1417321"; pn[1417321] = "1418610,1417329"; pn[1417329] = "1417321,1417410"; pn[1417410] = "1417329,1417682"; pn[1417682] = "1417410,1418258"; pn[1418258] = "1417682,1418298"; pn[1418298] = "1418258,1418362"; pn[1418362] = "1418298,1418530"; pn[1418530] = "1418362,1419018"; pn[1419018] = "1418530,1419066"; pn[1419066] = "1419018,1419090"; pn[1419090] = "1419066,1419098"; pn[1419098] = "1419090,1419106"; pn[1419106] = "1419098,1419162"; pn[1419162] = "1419106,1419170"; pn[1419170] = "1419162,1419258"; pn[1419258] = "1419170,1419226"; pn[1419226] = "1419258,1419330"; pn[1419330] = "1419226,1419354"; pn[1419354] = "1419330,1419362"; pn[1419362] = "1419354,1419370"; pn[1419370] = "1419362,1419530"; pn[1419530] = "1419370,1418282"; pn[1418282] = "1419530,1417161"; pn[1417161] = "1418282,1419074"; pn[1419074] = "1417161,1415585"; pn[1415585] = "1419074,1414713"; pn[1414713] = "1415585,1414153"; pn[1414153] = "1414713,1414193"; pn[1414193] = "1414153,1414497"; pn[1414497] = "1414193,1414393"; pn[1414393] = "1414497,1414473"; pn[1414473] = "1414393,1414129"; pn[1414129] = "1414473,1414161"; pn[1414161] = "1414129,1414073"; pn[1414073] = "1414161,1414089"; pn[1414089] = "1414073,1415169"; pn[1415169] = "1414089,1415177"; pn[1415177] = "1415169,1410785"; pn[1410785] = "1415177,1409121"; pn[1409121] = "1410785,1409161"; pn[1409161] = "1409121,1409185"; pn[1409185] = "1409161,1409233"; pn[1409233] = "1409185,1409353"; pn[1409353] = "1409233,1409881"; pn[1409881] = "1409353,1409897"; pn[1409897] = "1409881,1409913"; pn[1409913] = "1409897,1409929"; pn[1409929] = "1409913,1408697"; pn[1408697] = "1409929,1408777"; pn[1408777] = "1408697,1409817"; pn[1409817] = "1408777,1409841"; pn[1409841] = "1409817,1409889"; pn[1409889] = "1409841,1410025"; pn[1410025] = "1409889,1410129"; pn[1410129] = "1410025,1410577"; pn[1410577] = "1410129,1410705"; pn[1410705] = "1410577,1410809"; pn[1410809] = "1410705,1410817"; pn[1410817] = "1410809,1410865"; pn[1410865] = "1410817,1410937"; pn[1410937] = "1410865,1410961"; pn[1410961] = "1410937,1411057"; pn[1411057] = "1410961,1411425"; pn[1411425] = "1411057,1411473"; pn[1411473] = "1411425,1411561"; pn[1411561] = "1411473,1411577"; pn[1411577] = "1411561,1411641"; pn[1411641] = "1411577,1411993"; pn[1411993] = "1411641,1412049"; pn[1412049] = "1411993,1412153"; pn[1412153] = "1412049,1412473"; pn[1412473] = "1412153,1412489"; pn[1412489] = "1412473,1412561"; pn[1412561] = "1412489,1412577"; pn[1412577] = "1412561,1412593"; pn[1412593] = "1412577,1412553"; pn[1412553] = "1412593,1412793"; pn[1412793] = "1412553,1412801"; pn[1412801] = "1412793,1412809"; pn[1412809] = "1412801,1412841"; pn[1412841] = "1412809,1412897"; pn[1412897] = "1412841,1412929"; pn[1412929] = "1412897,1412945"; pn[1412945] = "1412929,1412817"; pn[1412817] = "1412945,1412865"; pn[1412865] = "1412817,1412873"; pn[1412873] = "1412865,1412913"; pn[1412913] = "1412873,1412921"; pn[1412921] = "1412913,1412825"; pn[1412825] = "1412921,1411585"; pn[1411585] = "1412825,1412097"; pn[1412097] = "1411585,1400345"; pn[1400345] = "1412097,1397145"; pn[1397145] = "1400345,1397153"; pn[1397153] = "1397145,1396889"; pn[1396889] = "1397153,1396617"; pn[1396617] = "1396889,1396825"; pn[1396825] = "1396617,1384090"; pn[1384090] = "1396825,1396801"; pn[1396801] = "1384090,1383641"; // cached usernames pu[0] = guestphrase; pu[325017] = "new dog"; pu[44077] = "Rusty O\\\'Toole"; pu[317234] = "bass player"; pu[1181] = "humble_pie"; pu[326674] = "Nelley"; pu[21530] = "olivaw"; pu[5118] = "andrewf"; pu[6012] = "sags"; pu[32020] = "Eder"; pu[165551] = "Pluto"; pu[40435] = "Spudd"; pu[315234] = "SMK"; pu[317122] = "mordko"; pu[415] = "bgc_fan"; pu[327761] = "wraphter"; pu[160083] = "OnlyMyOpinion"; pu[280946] = "Parkuser"; pu[53917] = "james4beach"; pu[59635] = "none"; pu[195195] = "Mechanic"; pu[26224] = "Argonaut"; pu[329922] = "like_to_retire"; // -->

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      Quote Originally Posted by sags View Post
      Destabilization and infighting in the west is exactly what Putin wants to create, while he continues his plan to return Russia to an empire again. The US needs to get their act together.
      Don't go outside-Putin is watching you.

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