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    Some more Fake News from the MSM-they just didn't think it newsworthy that the Florida airport shooter converted to Islam and took the name Aashiq Hammad (as opposed to Santiago) then shoots random infidels http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...-joining-army/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelley View Post
    Russia has not done any destabilization of the West-OTOH the Neocons and the Soros crowd have been very successful-Brexit, Trump, Le Pen, Merkel's problems all have nothing to do with Russia and everything to do with the aggressive destabilization program of the globalization crowd.

    This is correct about what has been going on up to now. Russia of course does have some aggression but some of that can be attributed to the west knocking on its border. In Syria Obama armed terrorists either directly or indirectly in a bid to overthrow Assad. Russia was invited into Syria at the bidding of the government of Syria to get rid of the rebels and terrorists. Many people in Syria are actually happy Russia is there to get rid of the maniac rebels that were terrorizing the Syrian people. I am sure many said they were happy with the rebels when the rebels had control because they were fearful of what these people would do to them.

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    What do the forum buddies think of CNN and Buzzfeed being accused of fake news by the NYT. The story is about Trump and sex acts in Russian hotel.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/b...ssia.html?_r=0

    And then the zero hedge take on this story as well.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...dled-fake-news
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    I eagerly await CNN's apology for spreading fake news...

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewf View Post
    Except the amount is a tiny fraction of the amount you claimed.
    Perhaps he confused the amount actually paid with the $10 billion the Iranians had initially demanded.

    Any which way you want to look at any Iranian story, hardly anyone believes all of it coming from either the US president or the Islamic Republic's mullah, and that goes for the nuclear deal also.

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    It is wonderfully ironic considering how Trump used fake news to get where he is: eg. Birther movement and now it seems like (maybe) fake news is coming back to bite him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivaw View Post
    On the topic. I think you, nelley, bass and pluto are mistaken. Your argument appears to be that professional media outlets fall short of the ideal of objectivity and accuracy. You assign a sort of ethical equivalence to sites that have no commitment to objectivity and accuracy.

    It's like giving equal weight to the medical opinion of a doctor and a random stranger in a bar. It's reasonable to seek a second opinion, but the second opinion needs to be trustworthy.
    Did you read "Manufacturing Consent"?

    You simply declare your faith that mainstream media is objective. But objectivity is supposed to be free of faith, assumptions, and beliefs. You don't seem to make any attempts to justify your faith. What is your criteria for truth? It seems to be something like this: Journalists who make money at reporting, and are thereby professional, must know and tell the truth because they are professional. But on any given day one can see panels of such professionals disagreeing with each other on various matters. If they are objective, (IE free of faith, assumptions and beliefs) why do they disagree?

    For myself, I don't automatically accept any claim to truth from any source, mainstream or otherwise. that's because I am well aware that objectivity is a myth. Mercifully, the Internet has provided a means whereby people who know what they are talking about can present their perspective independent of the (filtering) values of the mainstream.

    And on the matter of a doctor vs a random guy in a bar. If I recall correctly, Gerry Spence, the famous lawyer, once worked for insurance companies. He had a case where a car accident victim had to sue the insurance for a claim. The guy was virtually crippled. But Spence and the insurance company hired a doctor to say otherwise. Spence apparently felt guilty after he won the case for the insurance company, and from that time forward, he ceased working for them. Doctors tend to side with whoever is paying them. Similarly with professional journalists and lawyers.
    We can not know things as they are in themselves, but only as they appear to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by none View Post
    It is wonderfully ironic considering how Trump used fake news to get where he is: eg. Birther movement and now it seems like (maybe) fake news is coming back to bite him.
    All the latest fake news has done is once again proven the mainstream media spreads fake news and can't be trusted. I'm not sure how it hurts Trump...???

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    It's true - people are so polarized with Trump as they were with Obama.... at least on the conservative side Trump can do no wrong (even though he's admitted to sexual assault, gone bankrupt multiple times and is objectively a really horrible person) while Obama who you have to admit, seems like a very genuine, smart, scandal free individual is somehow the devil. It's weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by none View Post
    It's true - people are so polarized with Trump as they were with Obama.... at least on the conservative side Trump can do no wrong (even though he's admitted to sexual assault, gone bankrupt multiple times and is objectively a really horrible person) while Obama who you have to admit, seems like a very genuine, smart, scandal free individual is somehow the devil. It's weird.
    Trump never admitted to sexual assault. Fake news.

    Obama scandal free? More fake news.


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