honor killings on the rise not just in Canada

[carverman]

The US is starting to see it's share of female child abuse and honor killings..

PHOENIX (Reuters) - An Iraqi woman has been arrested in Arizona accused of beating her daughter and padlocking her to a bed in outrage after she spoke to a male student at school in violation of the family's traditional values, police said on Friday.

Farhan told police she hit her daughter because she "was speaking to a male subject and her Iraq culture states a female is not allowed to be having contact with males because females are not allowed to have boyfriends," court records said.

The arrest follows another high-profile case involving an Iraqi immigrant. Last April, an Arizona judge sentenced Faleh Hassan Almaleki to 34-1/2 years in prison for murdering his daughter in what was described as an "honor killing."

Almaleki struck and killed his 20-year-old daughter Noor with his vehicle in a Phoenix valley parking lot in 2009 for becoming too Westernized and violating what he said were Iraqi and Muslim values. He also injured her boyfriend's mother before fleeing the scene.

Hmmm..does anybody see a pattern emerging here?

[OhGreatGuru]

I doubt that they are on the rise globally. We are just seeing more cases occurring in the West due to immigration. But I take your point about the pattern.

[KaeJS]

Hmmm..does anybody see a pattern emerging here?

Yes.

And it is a serious mental issue that needs to be addressed.

Humans are animals. Telling a female she can't talk to a male is like slapping science and evolution across the face. It's gonna happen. Fact of life.

[andrewf]

This is an anecdote not a statistic.

[Karen]

What is an anecdote, Andrew? Every time the subject of Muslim extremists and their attitude towards women and girls comes up you seem to make excuses for them - sometimes I wonder if you share their views.

[carverman]

This is an anecdote not a statistic.

Anecdotal or fact? It is happening here as Muslims are allowed to immigrate.
While customs from other lands enrich our Canadian fabric..unfortunately
customs and lifestyles of the middle east cultures can create more problems for
us. Honor killings may be a "way of life" in a backward formerly nomadic culture
where women were just possessions of the men to serve them.

This mindset is not going to be completely eliminated in these cultures as the
fear of honor killings can remain for many generations...The Shafia example
is one we know where the father influenced the son to do the dirty deeds.
The son being the second alpha male next to the father did his bidding, even
if it was to kill his mother and sisters.

[andrewf]

You claim the rate of honour killings in the West is rising and provide a single example as evidence. It is an anecdote, not an overall statistic. It's like me saying that the rate of home fires is rising because my neighbour's house burned down. Non sequitur. This is not excusing big bad Muslims for committing murder, it is a matter of fact. I'll go on the record as being anti-murder. Forgive me for not holding Muslim murderers to a different standard than Christian murderers.

[slacker]

@andrewf: I don't get how you can be so ignorant about the rate of media reports of honour killings. It's clearly on the rise !! It's the number one national issue (until the news cycle pass or something more exciting comes along *hey!! something shiney !!*)

[LondonHomes]

Either way, these types of stories make me sick.

However, as a society people need to be aware of them and say that this is not acceptable here.

[carverman]

You claim the rate of honour killings in the West is rising and provide a single example as evidence. It is an anecdote, not an overall statistic.

This is a public forum Andrew and you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that...however..in the last 20 years since we started letting these Muslim religion people into Canada (and the US), there has been many incidents of
"honor killings"..not just Kingston ..but a few in Toronto where there is a much larger population.

The difference here... and it's hard to put them all into one catagory (honor killings) is that most of the murders are cleverly disguised as an accident. In Toronto, in the past two or three years, there have been cases of a Muslim woman "falling" to
her death onto the 401 from the overpasses on the 401 and other expressways.

It is done at night so that nobody can witness whether the woman actually jumped, was pushed deliberately (or thrown) off the overpass to her death... or dead already and tossed over. They (the men) are good at it..and in most cases they can disguise
the killing as a suicide..because the woman never survives the fall..so it is probable that she was suffocated first, because that is the easiest thing for them to do, then dispose of her body to look like a sucide and we know from the Shafia case
what a bunch of pathological liers they can be.

A few years ago, they were trying in Toronto to get Ontario to recognize Sharia law (Muslim law) on the pretext because they are Muslim, that is the only law that they think is applicable to them...not our Canadian laws.

Thankfully, our attorney general and lawmakers saw through that ploy and refused to adopt or sanction their Sharia law, which would given them "carte blanche" that they can just go ahead and kill female family members that displeased
them without having to assume any responsibilty.

So going back to my original comment, I feel that "honor killings"..even if it carries a life sentence if caught..is on the RISE in NA.