View Full Version : Could we use a trading forum?
I've notice there are many day traders or similar on the boards here who add a lot of content to other areas, mainly the investing subforum. While I think this is completely fair when you consider the subforums that currently exist, I was thinking it might be nice to have a separate area for day/ swing/ TA traders can discuss these methods.
It can be a little confusing sometimes to separate the TA activity from the rest. I'm not sure how to refer to "the rest" of the content, but I just mean the more general/ long term information that one would use for researching a company.
I just want to see if anyone thinks this is a good idea.
the-royal-mail
2011-12-25, 08:59 AM
I know what you are saying as that does appear to generate a lot of posts. But I find that newbies don't often search for existing topics anyway and would likely get confused as to where to put their new threads. If they feel the day trading category has more traffic they'll be putting their new threads in that category, rather than where it should be.
I wouldn't bother fragmenting the forum in this manner as there seems to be not enough benefit and there are plenty of financial categories as it is.
JMO.
leoc2
2011-12-25, 10:06 AM
How about adding an index investing forum? For us couch potatoes?
We can then keep Belguy in this new playpen with me.
Four Pillars
2011-12-25, 11:07 AM
I've notice there are many day traders or similar on the boards here who add a lot of content to other areas, mainly the investing subforum. While I think this is completely fair when you consider the subforums that currently exist, I was thinking it might be nice to have a separate area for day/ swing/ TA traders can discuss these methods.
It can be a little confusing sometimes to separate the TA activity from the rest. I'm not sure how to refer to "the rest" of the content, but I just mean the more general/ long term information that one would use for researching a company.
I just want to see if anyone thinks this is a good idea.
I think that's not a bad idea to have a separate 'active trading' section. How would you separate the topics though?
Seems like a lot of discussions are about specific companies - does it matter what method is being used if two people are talking about buying or selling the same co?
I think that's not a bad idea to have a separate 'active trading' section. How would you separate the topics though?
Seems like a lot of discussions are about specific companies - does it matter what method is being used if two people are talking about buying or selling the same co?
I would keep the topics likely the same, broken up by company, but someone who is trying to determine if Blackberry is a good investment will not care in any way if the chart is showing a cup with handle balancing on top of a shoulder of a head where two triangles converge and look like an arrow pointing down at a area of support where you should by if it jumps $0.02 showing a bullish trend towards a bear cave.
The way I see it, all that talk is just noise you have to filter out in order to find meaningful information. I'm not saying it isn't useful to some, but someone looking to buy into a company for the next 5-50 years doesn't care about comparisons of a women's skirt length to the market sentiment.
Just a thought. Just checking if more people agree or disagree with me.
ddkay
2011-12-25, 01:17 PM
Unnecessary imo, what this really comes down to is whether you want to turn the forum into an echo chamber. You're talking about duplicating threads to separate opinions
Berubeland
2011-12-25, 01:52 PM
I think keeping the active traders in the same sections as the couch potatoes or buy and hold guys is a valuable part of this forum. If we're not careful these two groups might accidentally learn from each other and expand their minds...:D
Truth is both ways work for different people.
I want a warrant section!
Actually funny thing happened the other day, I went to see my CPA who also sells Dundee mutual funds. He asked me what I invest in and I told him warrants and he told me that .5% of traders understand and trade in warrants. That sure explained all the blank stares I was getting...
Unnecessary imo, what this really comes down to is whether you want to turn the forum into an echo chamber. You're talking about duplicating threads to separate opinions
Not so much opinions, but methods. I'm not talking about segregating them because people believe in the merits of one or the other, but because they are completely different and rarely, if ever, overlap. The information that pertains to one doesn't really pertain to the other.
One artist uses Photoshop. The other uses canvas and paints. Both create art but they achieve it in almost completely independent ways.
ddkay
2011-12-25, 10:03 PM
All statistical studies and TA and do, is aggregate minute details and let people see the "big picture" in different time periods.
You have to realize, the type of fundamentals you look at, like income statements, balance sheets, forward P/E and all that, , like TA indicators, are ALSO derivatives, representing diminutive changes in an underlying company's health. They're both tools used to predict and/or rationalize stuff in retrospect.
Fundamentals always have and always will drive everything. No educated technician should argue that. Similarly, no educated fundamentalist should say "the market isn't being logical". Those folks are giving up before they started, and in skipping further research miss key information told by the interrelated macro story - fluctuations in global demographics, interest rates, credit availability, marginal risk aversion and monetary hydraulics. If you take time to study overarching components in addition to an individual economy or an individual company's health, you're more likely to have a better understanding of why things behave the way they do. With so many variables, there is NO sure-fire way about investing. You also have to acknowledge that there are dominating forces out there, the worlds biggest corporations and white knight elite have no control over.
leoc2
2011-12-25, 10:38 PM
How about we all agree to use the location profile line to indicate our investing style. For example "Location: Toronto" becomes "Location: Day Trader Toronto". I have changed my location.
Jungle
2011-12-25, 11:04 PM
I like that idea :) But some of us might need more space. Some have their buy and hold index accounts, another for trading, one for dividends, etc.
leoc2
2011-12-26, 08:42 AM
Perhaps board moderator can enable more than the location to appear in the posters data area. If we had 2 lines to describe our investing style it would help put a perspective on a reply.
humble_pie
2011-12-26, 10:41 AM
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Homerhomer
2011-12-27, 11:25 AM
I just want to see if anyone thinks this is a good idea.
Nope, bad idea.
1) The forums aren't busy enough to require seperation of every wee aspect of wealth management.
2) Many folks here don't limit themselves to one method and intermingle long term buy and hold with more frequent trading.
3) One can benefit from learning and understanding other methods even if they may never be applied in their portfolio.
Four Pillars
2011-12-27, 08:45 PM
@humble - You kill me! :)
Now that I think about it - it doesn't seem like the forum needs more areas.
The fact is that anyone can start a new thread, so if it's specific to trading/TA or T&A or whatever - just put it in the title and hopefully that will guide the conversation.
Good idea, four pillars.
Thanks for the input guys. Humble, not quite sure what you were saying there but thanks anyway.
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